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I've been practicing my strategy mainly on this map. I'm not the best, what I say isn't necessarily correct, but it works pretty well. I like to hit tech 2 as fast as I can, most people don't bother rushing you fast enough to make a difference.

 

Initial Build Order:

2 x Power Generator
Mass Extractor
Land Factory
    -scout
    -4x engineer
    depending on what your scout sees, either hit some mantis', or tech right here
    keep going with your commander for a sec:
    ME, PG, ME, ME, PG 

Alright, this leaves you with four power generators, and four mass extractors. Your engineers should go out and hit the hydrocarbon and mass extractors around your base. I like a wall making it hard for a rush to get in (I'll add a picture of the general idea of the wall soon). You will want one or two air factories eventually, as well as land if they like tech 1. Get those t2 engineers out, two or three, and get t2 point. Other t2 buildings to get are: shield, anti air, TMD!!, TML (if they look like they aren't defended well against it), and last but not least, don't forget your t2 power. I also like to build t1 mass fabs around the t2 power generator(s), as the extra mass _really_ helps. Save up your TM's until you have around 4, wait for their commander to start building, and lauch, game over. If they have TMD, don't even bother, unless you try my interesting strategy that I will discuss later.

 

Well, I'll edit this later, for now, I'm going to bed. 

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Hey Ash,

Welcome to the boards!

Interesting strategy - so the entire objective is to hit T2 before the other guy. So do you prefer tactical missles to artillery? I dunno - I'm still getting comfortable with tactical missile launchers myself. It seems like they're not able to keep the enemy on the move.

Also - does your strategy leave you weak if they come with a hard T1 attack? It seems like you don't leave much room between T1 and T2 to get enough defensive units in play.

 

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Ashanan,

 At what point do you upgrade to T2 ME?  I've always had a hard time transitioning between T1 ME and T2 on this map. 

Also, where do you position your TML?  More times than not, my opponent builds T2 point defense on his plateau before I can build one on mine.  I assume you're building your TML on that plateau which gives you range on your opponents base.  But how are you securing that plateau?  It seems that which ever player gets there T2 point up first wins.  How do you secure your plateau if you're not producing units?

 

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SCSAdminDave:

Hey Ash,

Welcome to the boards!

Interesting strategy - so the entire objective is to hit T2 before the other guy. So do you prefer tactical missles to artillery? I dunno - I'm still getting comfortable with tactical missile launchers myself. It seems like they're not able to keep the enemy on the move.

Also - does your strategy leave you weak if they come with a hard T1 attack? It seems like you don't leave much room between T1 and T2 to get enough defensive units in play.

 

Sorry for not finishing up my strategy, I was fairly tired and decided to post what I had. In WD, tactical missiles are far better than artillery, as they can hit the entire map and do far more damage. I build my TML before artillery, although I _do_ build a few artillery if the TML doesn't work. Even if they have a TMD, you can still use the missiles on mass extractors and point defense that is not guarded. To overcome TMD, if they only have one or two, just build many mobile missile launchers, and have them shoot, the TMD will be busy shooting down the MML's shots, and at least a few TM's will get through, usually I'd hit the TMD first, then comm, and other important targets.

 A hard T1 attack might get through, not sure, as nobody has managed to get a hard push. As soon as you see my wall strategy, you should see, although T1 artillery can still take it out. Basically I make it very hard for them to get through the wall, all the while being shot by a couple T1 PD. Also, building a few T1 PD on the plateau will throw off a mantis rush easily. Once I hit tech two, depending on what exactly is happening, I build T2 PD, which can throw off large assaults with ease (the PD go on the plateau). It would be interesting to play against someone who knows my strategy, and spams T1 really fast, I'd like to see if it gets through.
 

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Mr_Argue:

Ashanan,

 At what point do you upgrade to T2 ME?  I've always had a hard time transitioning between T1 ME and T2 on this map. 

Also, where do you position your TML?  More times than not, my opponent builds T2 point defense on his plateau before I can build one on mine.  I assume you're building your TML on that plateau which gives you range on your opponents base.  But how are you securing that plateau?  It seems that which ever player gets there T2 point up first wins.  How do you secure your plateau if you're not producing units?

Here is where my "secret" strategy comes into play, the T2 radar blockers are very, very good in WD, they can block out almost the entire plateau on your side, leaving them blind, unless they have air scouts. The air scouts are nice because they can stay out of range of even T2 anti air guns, while still leaving their guns to fire on you. Best thing to counter that is to have a flight of interceptors ready to take out a scout if it is there for a long time, if it's just passing over, that's not a big deal, shoot it down and move on. If they can't see you, they can't shoot you, so you can get some radar up, and kill them before they realize you've "disappeared".

Sorry I wasn't clear, I do produce units, just not a large force or anything. My last game, I had the first land factory back near the start point, which was pumping MMLs, and then two more T1 land factories pumping mantises and t1 artillery. I also had an air factory just behind that, pumping a interceptors, with a few air scouts. The point defense, however, can usually handle what they throw at me. The MML's are very nice backup, and depending on their defense, I sometimes send some in to hit them from long range.

If there's a slight lull in combat, or if i just have extra res, I upgrade to T2 ME, you don't even have to get them all. an interesting strategy I picked up, is to build T1 mass fabs, not just around t2 power generators, but also build them with a t1 power generator on opposite sides, leaving a space between each set of three buildings, so that they don't all blow up at once with a single shell. I get at _least_ 10 mass from this, and it helps immeasurably.
 

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Alright, well it sounds like Ash & I are setup for a game or two tomorrow. We'll see how things play out. Obviously I've got his "strategy" here, but like with most SupCom games, you don't know the outcome 'till the commander goes *boom*... Ha ha.
 

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SCSAdminDave:

Alright, well it sounds like Ash & I are setup for a game or two tomorrow. We'll see how things play out. Obviously I've got his "strategy" here, but like with most SupCom games, you don't know the outcome 'till the commander goes *boom*... Ha ha.
 

It's tomorrow, but nothing is happening yet (still the morning). I'm probably going to use my other strategy, just in case. No doubt I'll be forced to post the strategy here, and then anyone who reads it can beat me with ease

 Keep looking back here at about 6 pacific time if you want the result of our games.

EDIT: It's 4:20, game starts in 40 minutes! (ish)

EDIT: it's 5:30, dunno where Dave ran off to :(
 

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Well, we put our money where our mouths are and gave the game a shot. I gotta say - I'm pretty sure you had me Ash, but then you stood off for a while. I really didn't have anything worthwhile left in the arsenal - I gotta believe you could've walked more or less straight in and taken me down (or at least put me in a real hurt).

As it stood, I was able to sit back on my laurels for a little while; basically backed in to my corner - but with my T3 factory still running. At that point, I put up a couple TMD's to try to keep you at bay, and then went on a complete Siege bot tilt. By the time it was said and done, I think I brought almost 30 T3 Siege bots to bear.

Great game though. I really thought I was finished. Next time, push a little harder! I'll be sure to look out for your trickery.  

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I _really_ should have had you that game, I could have easily overwhelmed your TMD's at one point, sending in a few missiles to your commander in the carnage. If only if only, the woodpecker cries. It looked more like 20 t3's to me, but, not sure. I'm far too cautious end game :(

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Ashanan:

I _really_ should have had you that game, I could have easily overwhelmed your TMD's at one point, sending in a few missiles to your commander in the carnage. If only if only, the woodpecker cries. It looked more like 20 t3's to me, but, not sure. I'm far too cautious end game :(

Yeah. I saved the replay. I'm sure you can spot the exact period of time (right after you sent a few rocket launchers, before I got siege bots) that you should've jumped on me.

Oh well. We'll play again soon I'm sure. 

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